Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:19:39 +0000 http://www.bikely.com/forum/ Lussumo Vanilla 1.0.3 http://www.bikely.com/forum/discussion/60/?Focus=221#Comment_221 http://www.bikely.com/forum/discussion/60/?Focus=221#Comment_221 Wed, 19 Jul 2006 11:24:31 +0000 elee http://www.bikely.com/forum/discussion/60/?Focus=222#Comment_222 http://www.bikely.com/forum/discussion/60/?Focus=222#Comment_222 Wed, 19 Jul 2006 12:04:46 +0000 Jules
See this, also]]> http://www.bikely.com/forum/discussion/60/?Focus=342#Comment_342 http://www.bikely.com/forum/discussion/60/?Focus=342#Comment_342 Fri, 18 Aug 2006 11:40:34 +0000 stayrose
What is the elevation for your ride?]]> http://www.bikely.com/forum/discussion/60/?Focus=345#Comment_345 http://www.bikely.com/forum/discussion/60/?Focus=345#Comment_345 Sat, 19 Aug 2006 12:10:54 +0000 davidjschloss http://www.bikely.com/forum/discussion/60/?Focus=351#Comment_351 http://www.bikely.com/forum/discussion/60/?Focus=351#Comment_351 Tue, 22 Aug 2006 10:12:45 +0000 skil
http://www.city.vancouver.bc.ca/vanmap/

What I'd especially like to see is a map that shows:
- CONTOUR LINES and TRAFFIC LIGHTS & STOP SIGNS]]> http://www.bikely.com/forum/discussion/60/?Focus=352#Comment_352 http://www.bikely.com/forum/discussion/60/?Focus=352#Comment_352 Wed, 23 Aug 2006 08:29:25 +0000 Jules
The data source is a bit flakey, though, so we'll see how it goes.]]> http://www.bikely.com/forum/discussion/60/?Focus=360#Comment_360 http://www.bikely.com/forum/discussion/60/?Focus=360#Comment_360 Wed, 23 Aug 2006 15:31:17 +0000 mmeiser
Sadly... I too would LOVE topographic maps.

Like the layers thing too... but admitedly it's not core functionality... it's the cool sort of added value stuff you can add later.

I just wish I lived somewhere where I could say... yeah, that elevation graph is awesome... but there's no flatter place in the world. :P

-Mike]]> http://www.bikely.com/forum/discussion/60/?Focus=365#Comment_365 http://www.bikely.com/forum/discussion/60/?Focus=365#Comment_365 Thu, 24 Aug 2006 20:31:28 +0000 Jules
You're gonna love the elevation graphs.. stay tuned for deployment late this week!]]> http://www.bikely.com/forum/discussion/60/?Focus=401#Comment_401 http://www.bikely.com/forum/discussion/60/?Focus=401#Comment_401 Tue, 29 Aug 2006 00:41:32 +0000 sfpinkfloyd http://www.bikely.com/forum/discussion/60/?Focus=416#Comment_416 http://www.bikely.com/forum/discussion/60/?Focus=416#Comment_416 Tue, 29 Aug 2006 07:17:29 +0000 stephanosbacon http://www.bikely.com/forum/discussion/60/?Focus=417#Comment_417 http://www.bikely.com/forum/discussion/60/?Focus=417#Comment_417 Tue, 29 Aug 2006 07:41:37 +0000 brandonwilhite http://www.bikely.com/forum/discussion/60/?Focus=436#Comment_436 http://www.bikely.com/forum/discussion/60/?Focus=436#Comment_436 Tue, 29 Aug 2006 16:35:37 +0000 wia http://www.bikely.com/forum/discussion/60/?Focus=443#Comment_443 http://www.bikely.com/forum/discussion/60/?Focus=443#Comment_443 Wed, 30 Aug 2006 08:08:48 +0000 eheupel This would be an idel development for me, wanting to use some of my courses to train over winter for the course itself in the spring. I can dump a GPX file into Computrainer's course creation software, but without elevation field would have to duplicate the effort.]]> http://www.bikely.com/forum/discussion/60/?Focus=445#Comment_445 http://www.bikely.com/forum/discussion/60/?Focus=445#Comment_445 Wed, 30 Aug 2006 08:51:32 +0000 Jules http://www.bikely.com/forum/discussion/60/?Focus=448#Comment_448 http://www.bikely.com/forum/discussion/60/?Focus=448#Comment_448 Wed, 30 Aug 2006 13:21:17 +0000 andrewheard http://www.bikely.com/forum/discussion/60/?Focus=449#Comment_449 http://www.bikely.com/forum/discussion/60/?Focus=449#Comment_449 Wed, 30 Aug 2006 14:33:07 +0000 skil http://www.bikely.com/forum/discussion/60/?Focus=452#Comment_452 http://www.bikely.com/forum/discussion/60/?Focus=452#Comment_452 Wed, 30 Aug 2006 18:16:39 +0000 graeme.chambers
Have you thought about adding two or more sets of elevation to the one graph? eg: user is viewing a route, then selects a "Nearby" route, then clicks for elevation. It'd be nice if you can compare the two routes. It might be a bit of effort to get the two graphs to overlay at the correct points, but hey.. this is a wishlist]]> http://www.bikely.com/forum/discussion/60/?Focus=456#Comment_456 http://www.bikely.com/forum/discussion/60/?Focus=456#Comment_456 Thu, 31 Aug 2006 00:27:02 +0000 klucht http://www.bikely.com/forum/discussion/60/?Focus=457#Comment_457 http://www.bikely.com/forum/discussion/60/?Focus=457#Comment_457 Thu, 31 Aug 2006 00:50:15 +0000 jefflynch35
Elevation is an excellent feature! Unfortunately, my loop rides don't seem to end up at the same elevation as they start. hmmmm

Other features? - total elevation gained (for comparison of ride difficulty), data in feet/miles. Sorry, we still haven't caught up to the rest of the world yet! Thanks]]> http://www.bikely.com/forum/discussion/60/?Focus=505#Comment_505 http://www.bikely.com/forum/discussion/60/?Focus=505#Comment_505 Mon, 04 Sep 2006 20:29:33 +0000 TimC
One of my routes (Coonabarabran to Siding Spring Observatory) seems roughly right from my memory (it's not hard to guess as to its correctness -- there's a big mountain at the end :), but my short distance commutes etc all seems really wrong by 50m or so at places.]]> http://www.bikely.com/forum/discussion/60/?Focus=517#Comment_517 http://www.bikely.com/forum/discussion/60/?Focus=517#Comment_517 Tue, 05 Sep 2006 08:13:03 +0000 Jules http://www.bikely.com/forum/discussion/60/?Focus=559#Comment_559 http://www.bikely.com/forum/discussion/60/?Focus=559#Comment_559 Wed, 06 Sep 2006 23:01:35 +0000 cheg http://www.bikely.com/forum/discussion/60/?Focus=564#Comment_564 http://www.bikely.com/forum/discussion/60/?Focus=564#Comment_564 Thu, 07 Sep 2006 09:05:23 +0000 Jules data source is very flakey and often just returns '0'. Nothing I can do about that unfortunately.

Routes imported from GPX files may take up to 24 hours to retrieve their elevation data.]]> http://www.bikely.com/forum/discussion/60/?Focus=566#Comment_566 http://www.bikely.com/forum/discussion/60/?Focus=566#Comment_566 Thu, 07 Sep 2006 13:39:55 +0000 murray Best of luck debugging.
Murray]]> http://www.bikely.com/forum/discussion/60/?Focus=570#Comment_570 http://www.bikely.com/forum/discussion/60/?Focus=570#Comment_570 Fri, 08 Sep 2006 01:13:58 +0000 wia http://www.bikely.com/forum/discussion/60/?Focus=668#Comment_668 http://www.bikely.com/forum/discussion/60/?Focus=668#Comment_668 Thu, 21 Sep 2006 12:35:37 +0000 dbrower
thanks!
-dB]]> http://www.bikely.com/forum/discussion/60/?Focus=742#Comment_742 http://www.bikely.com/forum/discussion/60/?Focus=742#Comment_742 Tue, 03 Oct 2006 15:49:29 +0000 behanna http://www.bikely.com/forum/discussion/60/?Focus=772#Comment_772 http://www.bikely.com/forum/discussion/60/?Focus=772#Comment_772 Fri, 06 Oct 2006 09:27:25 +0000 Jules
Take a look and let me know.]]> http://www.bikely.com/forum/discussion/60/?Focus=776#Comment_776 http://www.bikely.com/forum/discussion/60/?Focus=776#Comment_776 Sat, 07 Oct 2006 02:03:25 +0000 ThorArth
I have had another look at elevation data for loop-type routes I entered previously - and it looks much more plausible now. The total climb / descent data is also very welcome. Your fix looks good! Many thanks.]]> http://www.bikely.com/forum/discussion/60/?Focus=780#Comment_780 http://www.bikely.com/forum/discussion/60/?Focus=780#Comment_780 Sat, 07 Oct 2006 07:37:32 +0000 hellers http://www.bikely.com/forum/discussion/60/?Focus=786#Comment_786 http://www.bikely.com/forum/discussion/60/?Focus=786#Comment_786 Sat, 07 Oct 2006 21:32:53 +0000 wia
the elevation graph for the naustadt route looks very well now (better than the version put on web). For one of Moritzburg routes (the longer one) I get two -9 m elevation points which is obviously wrong, but you wrote before, that this is in the data you get. Besides that the elevation data are realy cool. Thanks!!]]> http://www.bikely.com/forum/discussion/60/?Focus=793#Comment_793 http://www.bikely.com/forum/discussion/60/?Focus=793#Comment_793 Sun, 08 Oct 2006 20:12:39 +0000 hellers
http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/7089

:-(]]> http://www.bikely.com/forum/discussion/60/?Focus=803#Comment_803 http://www.bikely.com/forum/discussion/60/?Focus=803#Comment_803 Mon, 09 Oct 2006 09:39:49 +0000 Jules
Check back in around 12 hours, I've marked that route to re-fetch the elevation data.]]> http://www.bikely.com/forum/discussion/60/?Focus=805#Comment_805 http://www.bikely.com/forum/discussion/60/?Focus=805#Comment_805 Mon, 09 Oct 2006 11:39:58 +0000 dtra it's really useful and fun

you've prolly already had this suggestion
but a way to compare/map points on the elevation graph with points on the map would be awesome
as well as displaying comments for those points on the elevation graph (and better distance display on the elevation graph, eg. perhaps onmouseover a line appears that follows the mouse and displays the distance from the start, and also shows the exact height when it reaches a peak or trough)
obviously grade would be awesome, but not vital

also, what i've noticed, is that if you add some extra points in, and move them a bit, it can put some more detailed elevations in

just some suggestions
keep up the great work mate

dave]]> http://www.bikely.com/forum/discussion/60/?Focus=811#Comment_811 http://www.bikely.com/forum/discussion/60/?Focus=811#Comment_811 Mon, 09 Oct 2006 18:23:32 +0000 pilfjd
Just a couple of questions:

1) I'm just wondering why some elevation graphs of mine contain mile markers along the x-axis of the graph and some do not.
2) Also, how often will a route refresh it's elevation profile? One of my current routes seems to have just 1 elevation data point that is invalid. And, a couple of my routes from yesterday (more than 12 hours ago) still had no elevation data. I deleted and recreated it and the elevation data was present. Was the route going to get it's elevation data soon and I was just too impatient?

Regards]]> http://www.bikely.com/forum/discussion/60/?Focus=812#Comment_812 http://www.bikely.com/forum/discussion/60/?Focus=812#Comment_812 Mon, 09 Oct 2006 21:19:49 +0000 Jules
2 - It doesn't refresh unless all the points failed, or if I flag it to refresh. I will at some point add a facility to "re-request" all the elevation data, but for the moment that's not available.

Moving a point will cause its elevation to be refreshed, so if you can guess which point is missing, then you can take that approach. But I admit it's not particularly viable.

Hopefully USGS will improve the reliability of their elevation service so that it at least notifies the consumer when it cannot fulfill the request - rather than just returning 0 as it does now!]]> http://www.bikely.com/forum/discussion/60/?Focus=819#Comment_819 http://www.bikely.com/forum/discussion/60/?Focus=819#Comment_819 Wed, 11 Oct 2006 07:39:53 +0000 pilfjd
Regards,
Jay]]> http://www.bikely.com/forum/discussion/60/?Focus=820#Comment_820 http://www.bikely.com/forum/discussion/60/?Focus=820#Comment_820 Wed, 11 Oct 2006 09:23:10 +0000 dheatley http://www.bikely.com/forum/discussion/60/?Focus=822#Comment_822 http://www.bikely.com/forum/discussion/60/?Focus=822#Comment_822 Wed, 11 Oct 2006 09:51:16 +0000 Jules http://www.bikely.com/forum/discussion/60/?Focus=850#Comment_850 http://www.bikely.com/forum/discussion/60/?Focus=850#Comment_850 Mon, 16 Oct 2006 18:55:26 +0000 TimC
http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/Coonabarabran-to-Siding-Spring-Observatory had one obvious bad point, which would really stuff up cummulative climb/descent, if not filtered out.

So my thought is -- is the bad data exactly 0 (someone mentioned -9m before)? Sure, you can't filter that out directly, because for all you know, someone from the Netherlands will come along with their route at or below sea level, and they won't be given elevation data if filtered as such. But what you can do is to filter out data that is both exactly 0, and has a large change from a previous or next point (and do this recursively in the case of multiple potentially bad data). A large change can be defined as say 200m in 1km. If my points are 100m apart, and one is exactly 0m, and one is greater than 20m elevation, then the 0 is filtered out.]]> http://www.bikely.com/forum/discussion/60/?Focus=851#Comment_851 http://www.bikely.com/forum/discussion/60/?Focus=851#Comment_851 Mon, 16 Oct 2006 18:58:12 +0000 TimC http://www.bikely.com/forum/discussion/60/?Focus=852#Comment_852 http://www.bikely.com/forum/discussion/60/?Focus=852#Comment_852 Mon, 16 Oct 2006 20:28:31 +0000 Jules
No filtering at render time, but yes I could use that same algorithm to try to filter out the bad data during rendering.

I'm might try writing a friendly letter to USGS instead!]]> http://www.bikely.com/forum/discussion/60/?Focus=860#Comment_860 http://www.bikely.com/forum/discussion/60/?Focus=860#Comment_860 Tue, 17 Oct 2006 21:34:28 +0000 hellers http://www.bikely.com/forum/discussion/60/?Focus=862#Comment_862 http://www.bikely.com/forum/discussion/60/?Focus=862#Comment_862 Wed, 18 Oct 2006 00:23:53 +0000 jeremy http://www.bikely.com/forum/discussion/60/?Focus=868#Comment_868 http://www.bikely.com/forum/discussion/60/?Focus=868#Comment_868 Wed, 18 Oct 2006 09:14:05 +0000 Jules
Do most GPSs include altitude data?]]> http://www.bikely.com/forum/discussion/60/?Focus=884#Comment_884 http://www.bikely.com/forum/discussion/60/?Focus=884#Comment_884 Fri, 20 Oct 2006 15:22:39 +0000 jeremy
The other thing that would be nice to get some info (i.e. figures) of actual grades along the way. I'm not aware of any sites (or apps) that do this at the moment though it should be quite trivial provided you have the horizontal distance travelled and the vertical elevation gained or lost. Not sure how you'd present the info though, maybe just mousing over various sections of the graph. An even more trivial thing that could be done though is to show individual waypoints on the graph as well to help get an idea of where the steeper sections are.]]> http://www.bikely.com/forum/discussion/60/?Focus=927#Comment_927 http://www.bikely.com/forum/discussion/60/?Focus=927#Comment_927 Thu, 26 Oct 2006 19:55:01 +0000 nkhnz
Also is it possible to show the points with notes on the elevation chart?

cheers for the great site.]]> http://www.bikely.com/forum/discussion/60/?Focus=937#Comment_937 http://www.bikely.com/forum/discussion/60/?Focus=937#Comment_937 Fri, 27 Oct 2006 13:40:40 +0000 Jules
The elevation chart is an approximation of most routes - it cannot display more than a few hundred points. So it's not really feasible to annotate it.]]> http://www.bikely.com/forum/discussion/60/?Focus=938#Comment_938 http://www.bikely.com/forum/discussion/60/?Focus=938#Comment_938 Fri, 27 Oct 2006 15:09:22 +0000 sean_clift
Great site! I'm also finding elevation flakey, just tried to fix a route by moving all the bad points which was going well until I got to the last one, when a whole new batch went bad...

Your refresh idea sounds like the go... and the friendly letter!

Sean]]> http://www.bikely.com/forum/discussion/60/?Focus=1268#Comment_1268 http://www.bikely.com/forum/discussion/60/?Focus=1268#Comment_1268 Sat, 06 Jan 2007 01:59:02 +0000 dr2chase
I will try moving points in my routes.

David]]>